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* How do we get people like this...Tony
+- Re: How do we get people like this...Phil Hendry's Chop shop
+- Re: How do we get people like this...Gordon
`* Re: How do we get people like this...Rich80105
 +* Re: How do we get people like this...Tony
 |`* Re: How do we get people like this...Rich80105
 | `* Re: How do we get people like this...Tony
 |  `* Re: How do we get people like this...Rich80105
 |   `- Re: How do we get people like this...Tony
 `* Re: How do we get people like this...BR
  `* Re: How do we get people like this...Rich80105
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From: lizandtony@orcon.net.nz (Tony)
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Subject: How do we get people like this...
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Tony - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18 UTC

....telling us what to do?
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with
the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with Klaus
Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this
sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody
gets it wrong every time.

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:55 UTC

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC)
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

> ...telling us what to do?
> https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
> The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate
> change with the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their
> relationship with Klaus Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly
> the WHO are not tasked with this sort of work. Maybe Trump was right
> to tell them to go away, after all nobody gets it wrong every time.

+1

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From: Gordon@leaf.net.nz (Gordon)
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 by: Gordon - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 00:29 UTC

On 2024-04-12, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> ...telling us what to do?
> https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
> The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with
> the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with Klaus
> Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this
> sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody
> gets it wrong every time.

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-03-2024-call-for-urgent-agreement-on-international-deal-to-prepare-for-and-prevent-future-pandemics

What is really important is to not the that the WHO, and WEF are not elected
represenstives. They are in the process of doing a power grab as well as a
money grab.

The so called pandemic treaty is up for ratification if this goes ahead it
will make the WHO the global Government, certainly in health issues, in such
things as lockdowns, mandates for all health matters and the length of the
lockdowns.

They are doing it with the facade of what the WHO was set up todo. However
it does appear to some people that they are working under the WHO cover to
do a great power grab as well as get even richer.

Lets end with this,

"You cannot comply your way out of a tyranny... Start rebelling. They are
out to get you if you do not resist."

German MEP, Christine Anderson: The so-called "pandemic" was a beta
test—orchestrated by globalists—to determine how easy it would be to seize
totalitarian control, under the pretext of a global "emergency".

"The goal, ultimately, is to transform our free and democratic societies
into totalitarian societies. Their goal is to strip each and every one of
us of our fundamental rights, of freedom, democracy, the rule of law. They
want to get rid of all of this."

"In the entire history of mankind, there has never been a political elite
concerned about the well-being of regular people, and it isn't any different
now."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnGntLmPRE

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 by: Rich80105 - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:03 UTC

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

>...telling us what to do?
>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
>The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with
>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with Klaus
>Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this
>sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody
>gets it wrong every time.

Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me
neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
proposed.

Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
prepared to name themselves . . .

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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: How do we get people like this...
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Tony - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41 UTC

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>...telling us what to do?
>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
>>The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with
>>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with
>>Klaus
>>Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this
>>sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody
>>gets it wrong every time.
>
>Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
>sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
>dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me
>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
>that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
>proposed.
>
>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>prepared to name themselves . . .
Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one
day cause you irreparable harm.

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 by: Rich80105 - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 07:30 UTC

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

>Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>...telling us what to do?
>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
>>>The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with
>>>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with
>>>Klaus
>>>Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this
>>>sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody
>>>gets it wrong every time.
>>
>>Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
>>sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
>>dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me
>>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
>>that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
>>proposed.
>>
>>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>>prepared to name themselves . . .
>Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one
>day cause you irreparable harm.

So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are
permissible, Tony?

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 by: Tony - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:37 UTC

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...telling us what to do?
>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
>>>>The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change
>>>>with
>>>>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with
>>>>Klaus
>>>>Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with
>>>>this
>>>>sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all
>>>>nobody
>>>>gets it wrong every time.
>>>
>>>Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
>>>sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
>>>dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me
>>>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
>>>that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
>>>proposed.
>>>
>>>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>>>prepared to name themselves . . .
>>Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one
>>day cause you irreparable harm.
>
>So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are
>permissible, Tony?
Since you clearly could not open the link, or could not follow what it tells
you perhaps you could get someone to assist. A 5 year old child is my
suggestion - they will probably use short simple words.

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 by: Rich80105 - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:41 UTC

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:37:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

>Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>...telling us what to do?
>>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
>>>>>The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change
>>>>>with
>>>>>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with
>>>>>Klaus
>>>>>Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with
>>>>>this
>>>>>sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all
>>>>>nobody
>>>>>gets it wrong every time.
>>>>
>>>>Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
>>>>sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
>>>>dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me
>>>>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
>>>>that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
>>>>proposed.
>>>>
>>>>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>>>>prepared to name themselves . . .
>>>Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one
>>>day cause you irreparable harm.
>>
>>So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are
>>permissible, Tony?
>Since you clearly could not open the link, or could not follow what it tells
>you perhaps you could get someone to assist. A 5 year old child is my
>suggestion - they will probably use short simple words.
Such assistance would clearly be desirable for you, Tony. The speaker
gave a point of view as to a course of action, but never tried to
dictate anything.

He said: "Our food systems are harming the health of people and
planet. Food systems contribute to over 30% of greenhouse gas
emissions, and account for almost one third of the global burden of
disease."

"Transforming food systems is therefore essential, by shifting towards
healthier, diversified and more plant based diets."

What order or dictate is included in that expression of opinion, Tony?

You appear to be obsessed with a "Shtrong Leader" telling you what to
do; clearly Luxon is never going to be that person. Taking your guide
from "Wide-Awake Media" seems to be where you have gone wrong -
perhaps you were taking their wrong assertions as your guide - if so
you are easily led, and still wrong. I have no idea who hides behind
that label, but it shows the same inane lack of logic that seems
attractive to "useful idiots" that also follow other dis-information
sites.

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 by: Tony - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:05 UTC

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:37:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>...telling us what to do?
>>>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
>>>>>>The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with
>>>>>>Klaus
>>>>>>Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all
>>>>>>nobody
>>>>>>gets it wrong every time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
>>>>>sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
>>>>>dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me
>>>>>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
>>>>>that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
>>>>>proposed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>>>>>prepared to name themselves . . .
>>>>Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will
>>>>one
>>>>day cause you irreparable harm.
>>>
>>>So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are
>>>permissible, Tony?
>>Since you clearly could not open the link, or could not follow what it tells
>>you perhaps you could get someone to assist. A 5 year old child is my
>>suggestion - they will probably use short simple words.
>Such assistance would clearly be desirable for you, Tony. The speaker
>gave a point of view as to a course of action, but never tried to
>dictate anything.
>
>He said: "Our food systems are harming the health of people and
>planet. Food systems contribute to over 30% of greenhouse gas
>emissions, and account for almost one third of the global burden of
>disease."
>
>"Transforming food systems is therefore essential, by shifting towards
>healthier, diversified and more plant based diets."
>
>What order or dictate is included in that expression of opinion, Tony?
Your inability to comprehend English is exposed once more. Just read it with an
olpen mind for the first time and you might, just might, understand. Go on,
trty a first in your life.
>
>You appear to be obsessed with a "Shtrong Leader" telling you what to
>do; clearly Luxon is never going to be that person. Taking your guide
>from "Wide-Awake Media" seems to be where you have gone wrong -
>perhaps you were taking their wrong assertions as your guide - if so
>you are easily led, and still wrong. I have no idea who hides behind
>that label, but it shows the same inane lack of logic that seems
>attractive to "useful idiots" that also follow other dis-information
>sites.
Bleat away little pixie, bleat away - but you are wrong. Period.

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On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 17:03:12 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>prepared to name themselves . . .

You don't name yourself either Rich80105 so you are in no position to
criticise the anonymity of other people.

Bill.

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On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 19:20:04 +1200, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 17:03:12 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>>prepared to name themselves . . .
>
>You don't name yourself either Rich80105 so you are in no position to
>criticise the anonymity of other people.
>
>Bill.

fair comment Bill - and of course we have no idea if your real name is
Bill, or if it is which Bill you are.

There are however a number of relatively new websites or social media
sites where those posting are careful not to identify themselves - see
for example

https://www.facebook.com/GroundswellNZ/

and that Facebook page does seem to have moved on from many of the
original Groundswell protests - it does seem to be consistent however
with the views of some in ACT, National and the NZ Taxpayers Union . .
..

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 by: Tony - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:16 UTC

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 19:20:04 +1200, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 17:03:12 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
>>>prepared to name themselves . . .
>>
>>You don't name yourself either Rich80105 so you are in no position to
>>criticise the anonymity of other people.
>>
>>Bill.
>
>fair comment Bill - and of course we have no idea if your real name is
>Bill, or if it is which Bill you are.
You started it, not Bill!
>
>There are however a number of relatively new websites or social media
>sites where those posting are careful not to identify themselves - see
>for example
>
>https://www.facebook.com/GroundswellNZ/
>
>and that Facebook page does seem to have moved on from many of the
>original Groundswell protests - it does seem to be consistent however
>with the views of some in ACT, National and the NZ Taxpayers Union . .
Nonsense.


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