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* I believe "atheism" is just a play on words.Michael Christ
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 `* Re: I believe "atheism" is just a play on words.Michael Christ
  `* Re: I believe "atheism" is just a play on words.Dawn Flood
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   |+- Re: I believe "atheism" is just a play on words.Robert
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 by: Michael Christ - Thu, 2 May 2024 23:48 UTC

It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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 by: % - Fri, 3 May 2024 00:02 UTC

Michael Christ wrote:
> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
so

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 by: Michael Christ - Fri, 3 May 2024 01:12 UTC

On 3/05/2024 10:02 am, % wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
> so

So, what?

So what?

What so?

What, so?

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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 by: Dawn Flood - Fri, 3 May 2024 05:06 UTC

On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>

You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You did
a nice job on "faith".

Dawn

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 by: Michael Christ - Fri, 3 May 2024 09:50 UTC

On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>
>
> You can't even define "nothing", Michael.  But, give it a try.  You did
> a nice job on "faith".
>
> Dawn
>

Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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 by: Dawn Flood - Fri, 3 May 2024 20:13 UTC

On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>
>>
>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael.  But, give it a try.  You
>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>
>> Dawn
>>
>
> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>

Michael,

What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!

Dawn

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 by: Skeeter - Fri, 3 May 2024 20:46 UTC

In article <v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
says...
>
> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> >> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You can't even define "nothing", Michael.  But, give it a try.  You
> >> did a nice job on "faith".
> >>
> >> Dawn
> >>
> >
> > Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
> >
>
> Michael,
>
> What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
> create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
>
> Dawn

Again you question why a God would do things his/her way. Maybe there is
a reason physics hasn't figured out yet.

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 by: No One - Fri, 3 May 2024 22:16 UTC

On May 3, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
(in article <v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
> > >
> > > You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
> > > did a nice job on "faith".
> > >
> > > Dawn
> >
> > Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>
> Michael,
>
> What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
> create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
>
> Dawn

“And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O LORD: thy faithfulness also in
the congregation of the saints.” (Psa 89:5, KJV)

So that you can see the Hebrew definition of Heaven.

H8064(Brown-Driver-Briggs)

שׁמה / שׁמים shâmayim / shâmeh

BDB Definition:

1) heaven, heavens, sky

1a) visible heavens, sky

1a1) as abode of the stars

1a2) as the visible universe, the sky, atmosphere, etc

1b) Heaven (as the abode of God)

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 by: Robert - Fri, 3 May 2024 22:22 UTC

On May 3, 2024, Skeeter wrote
(in article<66354d21$0$8094$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):

> In article<v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
> says...
> >
> > On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > > On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
> > > >
> > > > You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
> > > > did a nice job on "faith".
> > > >
> > > > Dawn
> > >
> > > Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
> > create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
> >
> > Dawn
>
> Again you question why a God would do things his/her way. Maybe there is
> a reason physics hasn't figured out yet.

Skeeter, stars are still being manufactured and emanate from the North Star,
which is really not a star. ;)

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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 4 May 2024 08:09 UTC

On 4/05/2024 6:13 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael.  But, give it a try.  You
>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>>
>>
>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>
>
> Michael,
>
> What is God's role in an expanding Universe?

God's role is everything.

> Why did God not just
> create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!

God has His reasons for everything, including you having a limited
understanding and not knowing things beyond your ability to grasp.

You are living on a planet whizzing around in space, aren't you? Why are
you here whizzing and not frizzing?

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 4 May 2024 09:35 UTC

On 4/05/2024 6:46 am, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
> says...
>>
>> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael.  But, give it a try.  You
>>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>>
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
>> create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Again you question why a God would do things his/her way. Maybe there is
> a reason physics hasn't figured out yet.

Even that is beyond young Dawn and her ego of enormity.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com (Dawn Flood)
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 by: Dawn Flood - Sat, 4 May 2024 12:07 UTC

On 5/4/2024 3:09 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 4/05/2024 6:13 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael.  But, give it a try.  You
>>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>>
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> What is God's role in an expanding Universe?
>
> God's role is everything.
>

Such is impossible to disprove on empirical grounds. I don't see how
such an idea is any different than positing the notion that we just live
our lives in some sort of simulation. Per you none of this is going to
matter until we are dead anyways.

Dawn

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From: robert@no.way (Robert)
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 by: Robert - Sat, 4 May 2024 16:30 UTC

On May 4, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
(in article <v158dn$16mfd$2@dont-email.me>):

> On 5/4/2024 3:09 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > On 4/05/2024 6:13 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > > > On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
> > > > > did a nice job on "faith".
> > > > >
> > > > > Dawn
> > > >
> > > > Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > What is God's role in an expanding Universe?
> >
> > God's role is everything.
>
> Such is impossible to disprove on empirical grounds. I don't see how
> such an idea is any different than positing the notion that we just live
> our lives in some sort of simulation. Per you none of this is going to
> matter until we are dead anyways.
>
> Dawn

Your path is determined before death. There is no reversal afterwards.

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 by: Robert - Sat, 4 May 2024 16:43 UTC

On May 4, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v14vh3$147mo$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 4/05/2024 6:46 am, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article<v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
> > says...
> > >
> > > On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > > > On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
> > > > > did a nice job on "faith".
> > > > >
> > > > > Dawn
> > > >
> > > > Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
> > > create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
> > >
> > > Dawn

Because he created it all just for man. He knew of the failure of man to whom
he gave everything we have, that some will fall by the wayside. Yet he left
his fingerprints on all of creation, as well as in out being, which gives us
the insight that there is more than what we see in order that we would seek.
He provided us with a path to be with him. It was given to all who realize
that they do not have all the answers. Pride is the downfall of man. Most are
not wise enough to understand that.

> >
> > Again you question why a God would do things his/her way. Maybe there is
> > a reason physics hasn't figured out yet.
>
> Even that is beyond young Dawn and her ego of enormity.
>
> Michael Christ

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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 4 May 2024 22:20 UTC

On 5/05/2024 2:30 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 4, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
> (in article <v158dn$16mfd$2@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 5/4/2024 3:09 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 4/05/2024 6:13 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
>>>>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> What is God's role in an expanding Universe?
>>>
>>> God's role is everything.
>>
>> Such is impossible to disprove on empirical grounds. I don't see how
>> such an idea is any different than positing the notion that we just live
>> our lives in some sort of simulation. Per you none of this is going to
>> matter until we are dead anyways.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Your path is determined before death. There is no reversal afterwards.

Everyone is given a free will choice, Dawn.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 4 May 2024 23:14 UTC

On 4/05/2024 10:07 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/4/2024 3:09 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 4/05/2024 6:13 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael.  But, give it a try.  You
>>>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> What is God's role in an expanding Universe?
>>
>> God's role is everything.
>>
>
> Such is impossible to disprove on empirical grounds.

For you.

That is the trouble with making yourself the centre of proof.

> I don't see how
> such an idea is any different than positing the notion that we just live
> our lives in some sort of simulation.  Per you none of this is going to
> matter until we are dead anyways.
>
> Dawn

Well, you know what is best, Dawn.

"God has His reasons for everything, including you having a limited
understanding and not knowing things beyond your ability to grasp.

You are living on a planet whizzing around in space, aren't you? Why are
you here whizzing and not frizzing?"

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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 by: Dawn Flood - Sun, 5 May 2024 00:41 UTC

On 5/4/2024 11:43 AM, Robert wrote:
> On May 4, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v14vh3$147mo$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 4/05/2024 6:46 am, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article<v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
>>>>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
>>>> create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>
> Because he created it all just for man. He knew of the failure of man to whom
> he gave everything we have, that some will fall by the wayside. Yet he left
> his fingerprints on all of creation, as well as in out being, which gives us
> the insight that there is more than what we see in order that we would seek.
> He provided us with a path to be with him. It was given to all who realize
> that they do not have all the answers. Pride is the downfall of man. Most are
> not wise enough to understand that.
>

How is an expanding universe part of "God's fingerprints"?

Dawn

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 by: Robert - Sun, 5 May 2024 02:27 UTC

On May 4, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
(in article <v16kjr$1fprp$2@dont-email.me>):

> On 5/4/2024 11:43 AM, Robert wrote:
> > On May 4, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <v14vh3$147mo$1@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > On 4/05/2024 6:46 am, Skeeter wrote:
> > > > In article<v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > > > > > On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > > It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
> > > > > > > did a nice job on "faith".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dawn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > > What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
> > > > > create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dawn
> >
> > Because he created it all just for man. He knew of the failure of man to
> > whom
> > he gave everything we have, that some will fall by the wayside. Yet he left
> > his fingerprints on all of creation, as well as in out being, which gives us
> > the insight that there is more than what we see in order that we would seek.
> > He provided us with a path to be with him. It was given to all who realize
> > that they do not have all the answers. Pride is the downfall of man. Most
> > are
> > not wise enough to understand that.
>
> How is an expanding universe part of "God's fingerprints"?
>
> Dawn

Sure, in engineering, architecture, music, arts, all of it bears the
fingerprints of its designers. There is a continuity of design no matter the
project, some would call it their style.

Look at all the various life forms, yes, even the earth, dirt, has life in
it. Look at the various objects and one can see, genetics, DNA, molecular
structures, etc. There are well imprinted consistencies in all living matter,
so strong is it that many honest scientist will see it, identify it, and say
that there must be something that created it all as there are too many
similarities to ignore, that it cannot develop out of chaos.

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 by: Dawn Flood - Mon, 6 May 2024 02:24 UTC

On 5/4/2024 9:27 PM, Robert wrote:
> On May 4, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
> (in article <v16kjr$1fprp$2@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 5/4/2024 11:43 AM, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 4, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <v14vh3$147mo$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 4/05/2024 6:46 am, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article<v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
>>>>>>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
>>>>>> create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> Because he created it all just for man. He knew of the failure of man to
>>> whom
>>> he gave everything we have, that some will fall by the wayside. Yet he left
>>> his fingerprints on all of creation, as well as in out being, which gives us
>>> the insight that there is more than what we see in order that we would seek.
>>> He provided us with a path to be with him. It was given to all who realize
>>> that they do not have all the answers. Pride is the downfall of man. Most
>>> are
>>> not wise enough to understand that.
>>
>> How is an expanding universe part of "God's fingerprints"?
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Sure, in engineering, architecture, music, arts, all of it bears the
> fingerprints of its designers. There is a continuity of design no matter the
> project, some would call it their style.
>
> Look at all the various life forms, yes, even the earth, dirt, has life in
> it. Look at the various objects and one can see, genetics, DNA, molecular
> structures, etc. There are well imprinted consistencies in all living matter,
> so strong is it that many honest scientist will see it, identify it, and say
> that there must be something that created it all as there are too many
> similarities to ignore, that it cannot develop out of chaos.
>

And, so, the Universe expanding is proof that it was designed?

Dawn

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 by: Robert - Mon, 6 May 2024 03:36 UTC

On May 5, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
(in article <v19f02$2at1a$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 5/4/2024 9:27 PM, Robert wrote:
> > On May 4, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
> > (in article <v16kjr$1fprp$2@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > On 5/4/2024 11:43 AM, Robert wrote:
> > > > On May 4, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > > > (in article <v14vh3$147mo$1@dont-email.me>):
> > > >
> > > > > On 4/05/2024 6:46 am, Skeeter wrote:
> > > > > > In article<v13ggp$nm66$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
> > > > > > says...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
> > > > > > > > > did a nice job on "faith".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dawn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
> > > > > > > create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dawn
> > > >
> > > > Because he created it all just for man. He knew of the failure of man to
> > > > whom
> > > > he gave everything we have, that some will fall by the wayside. Yet he
> > > > left
> > > > his fingerprints on all of creation, as well as in out being, which gives
> > > > us
> > > > the insight that there is more than what we see in order that we would
> > > > seek.
> > > > He provided us with a path to be with him. It was given to all who realize
> > > > that they do not have all the answers. Pride is the downfall of man. Most
> > > > are
> > > > not wise enough to understand that.
> > >
> > > How is an expanding universe part of "God's fingerprints"?
> > >
> > > Dawn
> >
> > Sure, in engineering, architecture, music, arts, all of it bears the
> > fingerprints of its designers. There is a continuity of design no matter the
> > project, some would call it their style.
> >
> > Look at all the various life forms, yes, even the earth, dirt, has life in
> > it. Look at the various objects and one can see, genetics, DNA, molecular
> > structures, etc. There are well imprinted consistencies in all living
> > matter,
> > so strong is it that many honest scientist will see it, identify it, and say
> > that there must be something that created it all as there are too many
> > similarities to ignore, that it cannot develop out of chaos.
>
> And, so, the Universe expanding is proof that it was designed?
>
> Dawn

How do you jump to that collusion? Do you see it expanding chaotically? Or on
fixed paths?

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 by: Andrew - Mon, 6 May 2024 07:46 UTC

"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v19f02$2at1a$1@dont-email.me...
> Robert wrote:
>> Dawn Flood wrote
>>> Robert wrote:
>>>> Michael Christ wrote
>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> , Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>> On 5/3/2024 4:50 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/05/2024 3:06 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2024 6:48 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> It should be called "Anothingism" if they were genuine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can't even define "nothing", Michael. But, give it a try. You
>>>>>>>>> did a nice job on "faith".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing is nothing, Mrs Gaslighter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is God's role in an expanding Universe? Why did God not just
>>>>>>> create the Heavens & Earth and be done with it?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> Because he created it all just for man. He knew of the failure of man to
>>>> whom
>>>> he gave everything we have, that some will fall by the wayside. Yet he left
>>>> his fingerprints on all of creation, as well as in out being, which gives us
>>>> the insight that there is more than what we see in order that we would seek.
>>>> He provided us with a path to be with him. It was given to all who realize
>>>> that they do not have all the answers. Pride is the downfall of man. Most
>>>> are not wise enough to understand that.
>>>
>>> How is an expanding universe part of "God's fingerprints"?
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> Sure, in engineering, architecture, music, arts, all of it bears the
>> fingerprints of its designers. There is a continuity of design no matter the
>> project, some would call it their style.
>>
>> Look at all the various life forms, yes, even the earth, dirt, has life in
>> it. Look at the various objects and one can see, genetics, DNA, molecular
>> structures, etc. There are well imprinted consistencies in all living matter,
>> so strong is it that many honest scientist will see it, identify it, and say
>> that there must be something that created it all as there are too many
>> similarities to ignore, that it cannot develop out of chaos.
>
> And, so, the Universe expanding is proof that it was designed?

The handiwork that shows design speaks to us of a Designer.

So there is no excuse.

"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does
not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality
behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend
a theologian who would deny the advances of science."
—Wernher von Braun

"The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets,
could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an
intelligent and powerful Being."
—Isaac Newton


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